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P167C — powertrain control module network

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P167C

LAND ROVER P — Powertrain

powertrain control module network

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Causes

  • Open or short in CAN/communication wiring (pins, splices, chafing)
  • Corroded/loose connector(s) at PCM or other modules
  • Poor battery voltage or weak/poor ground connection
  • Failed PCM or another module on the same network
  • Blown fuse or relay supplying the PCM or bus transceivers
  • Aftermarket electronic device interfering with the bus

Symptoms

  • Malfunction Indicator Lamp (MIL) illumination
  • Multiple control modules reporting communication-related faults
  • Intermittent or no engine start/crank issues
  • Loss or intermittent operation of instrument cluster, ABS, traction control or transmission functions
  • Random or multiple unrelated warning lights
  • Erratic behavior of vehicle systems that rely on PCM data

What to check

  • Perform a full module network scan with a capable scan tool; record all U-codes and freeze frame data
  • Check battery resting and cranking voltage (battery fully charged, >12.4 V at rest; >10 V while cranking)
  • Visually inspect PCM connectors, harnesses, junctions and any pin corrosion or water entry
  • Check related fuses and relays for PCM and network power/ignition circuits
  • Measure CAN_H and CAN_L voltages at the PCM with ignition ON (engine OFF)
  • Measure termination resistance between CAN_H and CAN_L (~60 ohms expected with ignition off)

Signal parameters

  • CAN bus recessive state: CAN_H ≈ 2.5 V, CAN_L ≈ 2.5 V (both lines near mid-rail)
  • CAN bus dominant state (active): CAN_H ≈ 3.5 V, CAN_L ≈ 1.5 V (approximate)
  • Termination resistance (two 120 Ω resistors in parallel): ≈ 60 Ω between CAN_H and CAN_L with ignition off
  • Expected steady bus voltage and stable frames when vehicle is in a known state; large deviations or stuck-dominant condition indicate a short/fault

Diagnostic algorithm

  1. Retrieve and record all DTCs (including U-codes) and freeze frame data with a capable diagnostic tool.
  2. Verify battery voltage and good chassis/body/engine grounds before continuing.
  3. Visually inspect PCM connector, wiring harnesses, nearby chafe points, and any modules tied to the same bus for damage/corrosion/water entry.
  4. Check fuses/relays that supply PCM and network transceivers; replace if blown and inspect for root cause.
  5. With ignition ON (engine OFF) measure CAN_H and CAN_L at the PCM: compare to typical idle voltages (~2.5 V). If bus lines are stuck high or low, isolate by disconnecting modules one at a time to locate the shorting node.
  6. Measure termination resistance between CAN_H and CAN_L with ignition OFF; expect ≈60 Ω. Very high/low values indicate missing terminator or short.
  7. Use lab scope or scan tool to view CAN waveform for dominant/recessive transitions and bus errors (error frames, voltage spikes).
  8. If a module is identified as causing the fault, swap with a known-good module where possible or replace the faulty module. If no hardware fault is found, check for available PCM/module software updates and perform reprogramming as recommended by the manufacturer.
  9. After repairs, clear codes and perform a road test and repeat module scan to verify the issue is resolved.

Likely causes

  • Damaged or chafed CAN H/CAN L wiring between modules
  • Corroded PCM connector or pin (water/dirt)
  • Blown PCM power/ignition fuse or poor battery ground
  • Faulty PCM transceiver or another module pulling bus lines dominant
  • Intermittent connection at a junction or splice due to movement or corrosion

Fault status

⚠️ Status
PCM network communication fault — lost or invalid messages on the vehicle data bus. Inspect wiring, connectors, fuse/power/ground and module operation.
🟡 Repair difficulty: Medium
⏱️ Diagnostic time: 1.5 - 4.0 hours

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